This couldn’t be more convoluted. Your distaste for tradition is simultaneously followed up with a call to embrace it.
Those vestments ARE tradition. As is mass in ad orientem with the old prayers. The council of Trent didn’t “make up” the Tridentine Mass; it formally codified the Mass that had already been in practice for 1,500 years.
Which means to say that what you call nostalgia is, in fact, tradition in its purist form.
The only ones who have abandoned traditions are the ones who took Vatican 2 out of context, but it think the experiment will eventually die off. It’s mostly the boomers who are clinging onto it, and the novus ordo churches are quietly going empty. In good time.
Let’s be real, our church is ancient and this Mass and ecumenism is very young and it’s already a hot mess. It will be a joke in the history books.
It sounds as though you disagree with one of the basic premises of the article, which is that tradition and nostalgia are *different.* Accepting that distinction is necessary in order for the main point of the article to be clear: we should embrace tradition (as manifested in the traditional symbols on the alb), but not for nostalgia's sake (or some idea that "older is always better").
If you do not agree with the distinction, I can understand how you disagree with the article!
While it's important to be using something beautiful for the right reasons, I'm not sure we really need to make such a divide between nostalgia and tradition. In some cases the former could lead one to the latter, and could even serve to indirectly preserve the latter. So nostalgia is not inherently a bad thing. (But considering how Francis seems to feel about tradition, he seems to conflate the two and to disparage both.)
Oh, they are different. And the only reason we are forced to look back at our scared traditions with nostalgia is because our church is in crisis and swept up in the times. I hope, one day, we won’t have to look back to the old times (nostalgia) and we will again receive what our forefather passed on to us (traditions like the Latin Mass). God bless you
(The author responding) The TLM, lace vestments, and ad orientem are traditional! They are wonderful. I go to the TLM! Please do not misunderstand the point of this article!
This couldn’t be more convoluted. Your distaste for tradition is simultaneously followed up with a call to embrace it.
Those vestments ARE tradition. As is mass in ad orientem with the old prayers. The council of Trent didn’t “make up” the Tridentine Mass; it formally codified the Mass that had already been in practice for 1,500 years.
Which means to say that what you call nostalgia is, in fact, tradition in its purist form.
The only ones who have abandoned traditions are the ones who took Vatican 2 out of context, but it think the experiment will eventually die off. It’s mostly the boomers who are clinging onto it, and the novus ordo churches are quietly going empty. In good time.
Let’s be real, our church is ancient and this Mass and ecumenism is very young and it’s already a hot mess. It will be a joke in the history books.
It sounds as though you disagree with one of the basic premises of the article, which is that tradition and nostalgia are *different.* Accepting that distinction is necessary in order for the main point of the article to be clear: we should embrace tradition (as manifested in the traditional symbols on the alb), but not for nostalgia's sake (or some idea that "older is always better").
If you do not agree with the distinction, I can understand how you disagree with the article!
While it's important to be using something beautiful for the right reasons, I'm not sure we really need to make such a divide between nostalgia and tradition. In some cases the former could lead one to the latter, and could even serve to indirectly preserve the latter. So nostalgia is not inherently a bad thing. (But considering how Francis seems to feel about tradition, he seems to conflate the two and to disparage both.)
Oh, they are different. And the only reason we are forced to look back at our scared traditions with nostalgia is because our church is in crisis and swept up in the times. I hope, one day, we won’t have to look back to the old times (nostalgia) and we will again receive what our forefather passed on to us (traditions like the Latin Mass). God bless you
(The author responding) The TLM, lace vestments, and ad orientem are traditional! They are wonderful. I go to the TLM! Please do not misunderstand the point of this article!
Most of that was something I’d like to say to the Pope, but thank you for clarifying and I’m glad you appreciate the TLM.